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We’ve been pretty critical of FSE and modern WordPress development. Mark decides to give building a website using FSE another try – and he’s surprised by the results!
Links from the show:
- 6.5 roadmap: https://make.wordpress.org/core/2023/12/07/roadmap-to-6-5/
- Syed Balkhi interview
- Matt Mullenweg interview
- Powder theme from Brian Gardner
Watch the video
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